Wednesday, June 17, 2009

So many good jokes here.

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  1. Hmmm. Sorry I took the bait. Quickly came across there, in the comments, about a half-dozen "jokes" about sex with children, including rape of children. Not the kind of thing I find funny.

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  2. As a raging feminist, I guess there are some jokes that are so ragingly offensive they lose any potential power and just become hilarious again. Sorry.

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  3. Actually gives me a good idea for a future post--why do some people (me being one of them) who are not generally racist, sexist or otherwise bigoted find (some) offensive jokes funny? There's some very complicated thing going on in terms of level of intent, inside information, etc. Also hearing the joke from someone in my general social group as opposed to like, my boss.

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  4. In fact, could have a lot of conceptual overlap with flarf.

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  5. Last night I watched Grave of the Fireflies, a movie about (among other things) victimization of children by adults. It's a very powerful movie, to say the least (choose the subtitles option, not the English dub). the morning after that film, these jokes weren't going to havae a chance.

    I enjoy, or have enjoyed, reading the the de Sade trilogy depravities, as examples of imaginative libertine hilarious excess, so I gotta agree that sometimes over-the-top or ragingly offensive somehow purges what would otherwise be totally inappropriate.

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  6. I've seen that movie! That is a really fucking sad movie. Well, certainly one can be in the wrong mood for offensive jokes.

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  7. To at least partly answer your "why do some people (me being one of them) who are not generally racist, sexist or otherwise bigoted find (some) offensive jokes funny?" question, you could read the book Comic Effects by Paul Lewis, or at least the chapter called "The Politics of Comedy and the Social Functions of Humor." He talks a lot about “how our disposition toward the butt of a disparaging joke influences our amusement.”
    Also, it’s worth a read if you’re curious about the poem-joke continuum--how poems and jokes are like or unlike each other: “To get a joke we must resolve its incongruity by retrieving or discovering an image or idea that can connect its oddly associated images or ideas” which is essentially how metaphor (not your fave, I know) works. He says, “When we have done this, given the social situation in which most humor arises, we are supposed to be amused, that is, to respond to the retrieved or discovered image or idea with playful delight.” I have to thank Christen Enos for sharing the chapter w/ me in the first place, and I could send it your way if you want.

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  8. anything is ok in comedy. it's understood that it's just a joke. like how it's ok to beat people up in a boxing/wrestling/ultimate fighting match, but not outside the ring.

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  9. the thing that makes a joke funny is the form, not the content

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