Sunday, December 5, 2010

Black Swan, holy crap. What a weird movie. I think it marks the birth of a new genre: Eczema Horror. Or maybe Eczemacore.

Anybody seen it yet? I need to talk to someone about this movie. Or join a support group.

17 comments:

  1. i just watched the trailer the first time yesterday. i need this movie inside me.

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  2. Saw it last night: Sooo good. But, yeah, I can still feel it in my nail beds. Cuticle = death! (When you think, I'll just pull on it...a little...to break it off...aargh!)

    Also, needed more Winona, but what doesn't?

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  3. I am gagging to see this film, but it won't be playing in this place that calls itself a city (it is to laugh).

    Eczemacore has the potential to become a legitimate genre. Have you seen the Singing Detective? Oh wait, that falls under Psoriasiscore.

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  4. Psoriasiscore! This Christmas ... THE RASH IS BACK

    Christen, we need to backchannel about this so I don't fill the comments up with spoilers....

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  5. I have not seen it, but you want to follow Geniusbastard on Twitter. He's been talking about it since last night. Nonstop.

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  6. In a world of dermatologist- prescribed ointments...

    Just when you thought it was safe to stop applying them...

    This Christmas...THE RASH IS BACK!

    It'll make your skin crawl!!

    Ok, I'm done. I have a tendency to "Letterman" anything I find funny.

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  7. Ha! Well done, JE ...

    Reb, will do.

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  8. Quickly glanced over his tweets. He seems to have had a similar reaction to me -- definitely entertaining, definitely will stick with me for a bit, and on those counts it totally succeeds; not sure I feel satisfied with it *as a film* ...

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  9. Just saw it last night -- wow, I loved it. I'm surprised I loved it. I thought it was going to suck.

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  10. I thought it was going to suck, too, until a friend talked about it and I realized it probably resembles some of my favorites films: Repulsion, Images, Mullholland Drive. Now I really want to see it, but I'm scared to see it, because it will then be over. Did you ever see Images? It's good. You're basically trapped or buckled into a very particular mindset, a pretty unstable one.

    Word verification below reads: Pootonat. As in, "oh yeah? Well, poot on AT, buddy!"

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  11. Hey, just saw the movie, I liked it -- but I don't understand what people are finding so "weird" about it -- it didn't seem that weird to me, seemed standard archetypal metamorphosis. Or maybe I'm outing myself as a big weirdo. :)

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  12. I guess by weird I mean the gross-out component of rashes/nails/cuticles/etc which I found particularly harrowing. Also in the last third the mind-fuck of having no idea what was "real" and what wasn't ...

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  13. Brian, I haven't seen Repulsion or Images -- who directed them? Mulholland Drive, however, is one of my favorite movies.

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  14. Repulsion is Roman Polanski and catherine Deneuve. It's pretty exemplary of the genre: confused reality by female protagonist. I forgot Rosemary's Baby, that's another. They pick up a lot from Yellow Wallpaper. The rashes and bodily stuff can be viewed I guess not just as transformation but as illustrations of bodily unease. A weird form of derangement specific to these stories. Images is an earlier Robert Altman film. Similar storyline. It's pretty stunning to watch. Three Women is another good one but it has more to do specifically with identity exchange. From what I've read/heard, there's an element of that in Swan, with her competitor, but in that movie the dual figure is more of a nemesis. MullHolland Drive is great the way it shows the double edged, love hate thing between doubles/dual figures. Three Women does view the characters as nemeses at points but it's more fluid, less strictly menacing. I have a whole list of these movies. It's one of my favorite genres. They're like nightmares of fantasy projection. Inland Empire picks up on a lot of those themes as well but puts them through a total funhouse mirror. They refract all over the place.

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  15. oh and "real vs. fantasy" is a huge part of those storylines, another reason I love them.

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  16. Three Women is soooooo creepy!

    I love the real vs. fantasy thing too, though in the end I like to be able to suss out with some degree of confidence what was "real" and what wasn't, after the fact if not in real time. with Black Swan I felt like there was no system for distinguishing between reality and dreamworld, and that was a letdown.

    Another movie that sort of fell apart in the end, but kept this kind of doubles thing going for a while in an interesting way was Moon.

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  17. just watched "3 Women" for the first time this week. apparently altman dreamed the entire movie, complete with the actors.

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